10/7/2022 update: See the addendum at the bottom for some obvious points I should have included before. I generally find the 21st Century Salonnière’s (also known as Dolly) writing to be thoughtful and insightful, despite the controversial arena she roams around in. Back in April (I have a terrifying reading backlog, ok?) she published the post
I feel real compassion for people entangled with the criminal Justice and prison systems especially. There’s obviously a tremendous amount of room for improvement.
The difficulty in proving some sex crimes accusations is of course really troubling. Some men are falsely accused, others may technically fall into the category while having more nuanced realities (I’m thinking of like a 19yo in a relationship with a 17yo). Men like that do not belong in the same category as serial rapists or molesters. One confounding aspect of the trans women sexual crime stats is that activists do not allow for differentiation between fetishists and the merely gender/sex noncomforming.
Is there, in your opinion, a solution to the “people charged with sex crimes get beaten up in prison” problem? Other than men theoretically claiming trans status to be moved to a women’s facility for self preservation and/or access to women.
I still don’t think you’ve explained the difference. Why would 50% of trans prisoners be there for a sexual crime, in contrast to 11% - 19% of the general prison population? Why, if criminally minded transwomen are just like other criminally minded people, are they not represented with the usual assortment of muggings, drug crimes, bank robberies, etc?
You might even think if they commit these other types of crimes, they would really stand out and be easier to catch because they look so different from the average “person on the street.”
And why, if they are “women,” as many activists suggest — real, actual women just like me — do they not show women’s patterns of criminality?
You suggest in the article that maybe they are so afraid of being beaten up that sex offending men claim to be transwomen after the fact, to be moved into women’s accommodations. Do you have any evidence of this?
If yes, I’d like to see it. If no, it’s as meaningful as saying maybe the moon is made of cheese.
My point was a very narrow point. Yes, everyone knows (I hope) that transwomen are a small portion of the population.
However I don’t consider half of 142 prisoners to be a “rounding error“— if we go through SPSS or a similar program and crunch the numbers, I am confident that half of 142 is statistically significant compared to the “expected” rate of 11-19% if our null hypothesis is that there is no difference between these groups (imprisoned men versus imprisoned transwomen).
Again, if you have evidence that sex offenders claim a trans ID after being imprisoned, I’d love to see that and work it into an update of my article. Otherwise, my point stands.
Based on the rates at which they’re imprisoned, transwomen seem to sexually offend at higher rates than non-trans men.
You don't seem to have considered the possibility that those "trans" prisoners may not actually be "trans" (which I won't attempt to define here). They may not sincerely believe they are women, they may merely see a chance of relocation to a women's prison which will a) reduce the likelihood and severity of physical assault by other prisoners and b) provide opportunities for further sexual offending.
It's a crazy thought, I know, but people capable of social transgressions serious enough for imprisonment may also be dedicated liars. And being in prison is usually the culmination of a series of offences, so many prisoners are fairly clued up about gaming the system and probably have few scruples about doing so. It's not even as if dressing up as a woman as a way to get out of being somewhere you don't want to be is a novel idea: Corporal Klinger was trying it on in MASH when I was at school.
May I finally humbly suggest that the easiest way for prison authorities to determine sincere trans women from fakes is to offer prompt castration as surely all that testosterone interferes with the inner female?
Here to say great choice of accompanying photo.
I feel real compassion for people entangled with the criminal Justice and prison systems especially. There’s obviously a tremendous amount of room for improvement.
The difficulty in proving some sex crimes accusations is of course really troubling. Some men are falsely accused, others may technically fall into the category while having more nuanced realities (I’m thinking of like a 19yo in a relationship with a 17yo). Men like that do not belong in the same category as serial rapists or molesters. One confounding aspect of the trans women sexual crime stats is that activists do not allow for differentiation between fetishists and the merely gender/sex noncomforming.
Is there, in your opinion, a solution to the “people charged with sex crimes get beaten up in prison” problem? Other than men theoretically claiming trans status to be moved to a women’s facility for self preservation and/or access to women.
I still don’t think you’ve explained the difference. Why would 50% of trans prisoners be there for a sexual crime, in contrast to 11% - 19% of the general prison population? Why, if criminally minded transwomen are just like other criminally minded people, are they not represented with the usual assortment of muggings, drug crimes, bank robberies, etc?
You might even think if they commit these other types of crimes, they would really stand out and be easier to catch because they look so different from the average “person on the street.”
And why, if they are “women,” as many activists suggest — real, actual women just like me — do they not show women’s patterns of criminality?
You suggest in the article that maybe they are so afraid of being beaten up that sex offending men claim to be transwomen after the fact, to be moved into women’s accommodations. Do you have any evidence of this?
If yes, I’d like to see it. If no, it’s as meaningful as saying maybe the moon is made of cheese.
My point was a very narrow point. Yes, everyone knows (I hope) that transwomen are a small portion of the population.
However I don’t consider half of 142 prisoners to be a “rounding error“— if we go through SPSS or a similar program and crunch the numbers, I am confident that half of 142 is statistically significant compared to the “expected” rate of 11-19% if our null hypothesis is that there is no difference between these groups (imprisoned men versus imprisoned transwomen).
Again, if you have evidence that sex offenders claim a trans ID after being imprisoned, I’d love to see that and work it into an update of my article. Otherwise, my point stands.
Based on the rates at which they’re imprisoned, transwomen seem to sexually offend at higher rates than non-trans men.
You don't seem to have considered the possibility that those "trans" prisoners may not actually be "trans" (which I won't attempt to define here). They may not sincerely believe they are women, they may merely see a chance of relocation to a women's prison which will a) reduce the likelihood and severity of physical assault by other prisoners and b) provide opportunities for further sexual offending.
It's a crazy thought, I know, but people capable of social transgressions serious enough for imprisonment may also be dedicated liars. And being in prison is usually the culmination of a series of offences, so many prisoners are fairly clued up about gaming the system and probably have few scruples about doing so. It's not even as if dressing up as a woman as a way to get out of being somewhere you don't want to be is a novel idea: Corporal Klinger was trying it on in MASH when I was at school.
May I finally humbly suggest that the easiest way for prison authorities to determine sincere trans women from fakes is to offer prompt castration as surely all that testosterone interferes with the inner female?